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TOPIC: Boxted

Boxted 26 Apr 2008 21:46 #1

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Interesting contemporary footage of Boxted airfield.

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Boxted 30 Apr 2008 18:39 #2

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Went to Boxted yesterday and took these photos

Memorial situated on main runway

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Runway lights on memorial

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Light bases upside down behind memorial

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This is the remains of the runway

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Perimeter Track

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Boxted 30 Apr 2008 18:43 #3

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Great photos there mate, a fantastic memorial that. I believe REF is down that way today so I've no doubt we'll see his offerings later!

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Boxted 26 May 2008 17:32 #4

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Great pictures of the memorial.

Unfortunately there is a problem (he says putting his anorak on).

Something not quite right about the runway light. In late 1944 Boxted was on the Air Ministry's list as 'Contact Lighting Definitely Required'. This should mean that it didn't have it, as there are other categories including, 'Complete and Working', and 'WIP'.

The overhead in 'UK Airfields of the Ninth, Then and Now' clearly shows newly installed lighting on Boxted's main runway as at 4 Sept 1943. OK the Air Ministry got it wrong.

However the lighting units should be C3s (post 1942 style), either Chance or GEC manufactured, and have the appropriate wording, e.g. 'The General Electric Co Ltd - London' in large letters cast into the casing.

This particular unit looks more like a C1 Chance unit which was obsolete by 1940. It carried no inscriptions. (During 1940 and 1941 an intermediate star-shaped runway unit was used, the C2 - these are reasonably common).

It is also rare to find any contact fitting with the glass still intact.

Another mystery to make life interesting (anorak off)

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Boxted 26 May 2008 18:39 #5

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must admit I was suprised too by those Stone Age light fittings, wonder where they came from?

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Boxted 26 May 2008 20:53 #6

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Not knowing anything about this particular subject can you tell me if the concrete bases are of the period.

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Boxted 27 May 2008 17:01 #7

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Hi Jason,

The concrete bases are interesting in that I haven't seen anything like them before.

Llandow also had C3 Contact lights, and there are some bases near the end of its main runway. They are cubes, clearly consuming much more concrete than those at Boxted.

Each contact light was connected to a transformer. In early systems these were in a separate pit adjacent to the light. (Yet more concrete required).

Those at Silloth (C2 Star fittings) simply dangled below each cast-iron fitting. I'm not convinced that there is enough space for that in the Boxted photos, but I could easily be wrong.

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Boxted 23 Feb 2009 17:28 #8

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Before and after photos of the memorial

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Boxted 06 Jun 2010 12:34 #9

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I'm having a real problem with those lights:
1) Main runway lights are clearly shown on the September 1943 vertical in UK Airfields of the Ninth. (This despite AIR2/5500 which states that Contact lighting was not extant at this time).
2) They are not evident on the May 1946 vertical in Airfields of the Eighth, (but may have been toned down / overgrown by then).
3) Haven't seen anything exactly like the concrete plinth or the fitting itself before.
4) One very remote possibility is that they were early versions of the T2 (See POST 2 )

T2 Post war glass encased, replacement for WWII cast iron taxi-track light. 12 volt lamp at either 12, 24 or 36 watts. Manufactured principally by GEC and Revo. 8 inch diameter with 5 inch glass dome. This unit was often fitted with a lens to provide a bi-directional beam and then used as flarepath lights at 100 yard spacing on subsidiary runways of some airfields in the immediate post war period.

Need to establish whether it is contact lighting or otherwise. Could some wonderful person measure the overall diameter, and that of the lens please. Thanks in advance.

Graham

Update - see here

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Boxted 06 Jun 2010 14:04 #10

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This may sound daft but is it possible that these were simply placed here to "get them out of the way"? They are also now upside down are they not? If you look at them they are split into 2 sections (across a track) and are sited at different angles...

I am happy to pop back up there and make a measurement Graham - give me a day or 2 and I will fire them at you.

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