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21 Nov 2012 07:39 #151
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A search on decoy does not seem to find it though it does find this one and an article about WWI Q-ships.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ltl3c
The programme can be downloaded as MP3 here
downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/mhis...y_20121120-1530a.mp3
It was someone who was researching the history of his area and came across an obviously WWII structure. He was told that it was an airfield and that there was a railway track there. When he spoke to the farmer he was told that the land had been bought / requisitioned for the Admiralty by a film company. It was a decoy for Great Yarmouth. There was also a bit of discussion about people reacted to the start of WWII, one woman has written a book where she gives a fictionalised account of how her grandfather went upstairs and got out his old WWI service revolved and put three rounds in it, ready for shooting his daughter, wife then himself in the event of invasion.
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00ltl3c
The programme can be downloaded as MP3 here
downloads.bbc.co.uk/podcasts/radio4/mhis...y_20121120-1530a.mp3
It was someone who was researching the history of his area and came across an obviously WWII structure. He was told that it was an airfield and that there was a railway track there. When he spoke to the farmer he was told that the land had been bought / requisitioned for the Admiralty by a film company. It was a decoy for Great Yarmouth. There was also a bit of discussion about people reacted to the start of WWII, one woman has written a book where she gives a fictionalised account of how her grandfather went upstairs and got out his old WWI service revolved and put three rounds in it, ready for shooting his daughter, wife then himself in the event of invasion.
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22 Nov 2012 07:01 #152
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Thank you Martin.
That would make the decoy one of the many Naval 'N' Series decoys running down the coast.
That would make the decoy one of the many Naval 'N' Series decoys running down the coast.
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09 May 2013 21:57 #153
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Some drawings and diagrams that may be of use:
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09 May 2013 23:10 #154
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There is a standard setting-out plan for Drem-type sites included in the file, but it's such a poor quality copy I couldn't get it anywhere near readable.
Similarly, the construction drawing for the larger design of shelter is in there too, indifferently reproduced and split over a number of pages.
That will take some time to assemble and clean up I'm afraid.
Similarly, the construction drawing for the larger design of shelter is in there too, indifferently reproduced and split over a number of pages.
That will take some time to assemble and clean up I'm afraid.
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09 May 2013 23:30 #155
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There are many diagrams and pictures of most of the decoy techniques and types. Two major surprises were the size of Q sites and the comprehensive coverage all over the UK in the preamble to Fortitude.
You may not understand the scope and importance of decoys until you have read this.
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I think you will find that Fields of Deception may be considered narrow in view and limited after reading the extensive international coverage in the 370 pages of the above.There is a narrative at TNA - AIR 41/3 "Decoy and Deception" dated 1950. Could this be an official history or a red herring?
There are many diagrams and pictures of most of the decoy techniques and types. Two major surprises were the size of Q sites and the comprehensive coverage all over the UK in the preamble to Fortitude.
You may not understand the scope and importance of decoys until you have read this.
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10 May 2013 07:53 #156
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No Amount Of Evidence Will Ever Persuade An Idiot (probably not Mark Twain)
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I believe MLRS books produce CD copy and possibly a downloadable version of the TNA document.Sadly I can't check as our work system blocks military site! I recall two books on the subject.
www.mlrsbooks.co.uk/
www.mlrsbooks.co.uk/
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11 May 2013 15:28 #157
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I have bought the book from MLRS, not cheap, but excellent. It appears to be a summary of "lessons learned", and a summary of what it was all about, plus some photos that I have not seen before. I'd figured most of it out, but there were revelations about "instant decoy kits" which were meant to be pre-packaged and deployed abroad.
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11 May 2013 19:42 #158
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I saw a couple of teleprinter messages in the 1ADHQ files referring to Q-sites being set up for the advanced landing grounds in France after D-day.
Must dig them out again, as they give the location and layout of each.
Must dig them out again, as they give the location and layout of each.
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06 Aug 2013 18:33 #159
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Can anyone help with the program described here
www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/...teroffactdecoy.shtml
www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/...teroffactdecoy.shtml
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21 Mar 2014 09:12 #160
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Does anyknow if Q sites have a standard temporay brick crew rest room, workshop type affair built on them?
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